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Starker

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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #120 on: October 25, 2017, 07:08:47 AM »

For "follower", I propose the word ššuuša based on Japanese 従者/じゅうしゃ/juusha.

So "followers of Ishtass" would be šaššuuša ku'Ishtass.

I know it differs from the usual doer suffix, which would be -la (cakla, kužala, karila), but as a religious/sacral term it could be a relic from an earlier time. Consequently, "to follow" might be ššuu and ššuula would be a person literally following someone, as in walking behind them.
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #121 on: October 25, 2017, 02:39:23 PM »

šaššuuša ku'Ishtass

Maybe this is what Phil Collins was talking about in Sussudio? ;)

Pardon my little joke; there’s nothing bad about this suggestion.
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #122 on: December 21, 2017, 02:11:42 PM »

If you all are game to dig more into this soon, I could use some help after the holidays as I write the script for Resherak.
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #123 on: December 22, 2017, 05:16:58 AM »

Happy to help -- looking forward to hearing specifics!
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #124 on: December 22, 2017, 11:14:42 AM »

A few words in the meantime:

[NOTE: LIGHT POTENTIAL SPOILERS - nothing that's not covered early]

- The Silver Tree (a Silver Sapling grown to world tree-like proportions)

- Skills (as in survival skills)

- Hero of Legend (as a title/honorific)

- Influence (as in renown/fame)

- Factions

- Chthonian (as in deep dweller)

- Memora (a magical means of capturing memory)

- Memoreum (a repository of great knowledge, specifically using Memora)

- [the equivalent of the universe's greatest nightmare, primordial terror, or great threat]
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #125 on: December 23, 2017, 03:10:28 AM »

To suggest possibilities for these, I needed to come up with some additional roots:

esadjdeep
hapnounsilver
hetiklonounbrass
hetunouncopper
sulnouncontainer
teteadjgreat, enormous, massive
žalverbthink
žalunounknowledge
žornoungold
yiklonounzinc
zižnouniron

Based on these new roots, together with the suggestions previously made, here are some ideas for the new words:

- The Silver Tree (a Silver Sapling grown to world tree-like proportions)

For this, I built off modified versions of some of TrenchKnife's suggestions:

učaśś - tree
učastu - sapling (lit. "tree-child")
yehapučastu - The Silver Sapling (hap: silver + učaśtu: sapling in the polite noun form)
yehapučastete - The Great Silver Tree

- Skills (as in survival skills)

arožalu ("safe-knowledge")

- Hero of Legend (as a title/honorific)

Yeppalate ("Greatly Honored Visitor") [I'm not entirely happy with this one -- other suggestions are welcome]

- Influence (as in renown/fame)

toča

- Factions

žiɾočarila ("color-peoples" on the theory that Lizard Men see scale color as reflective of group membership)

- Chthonian (as in deep dweller)

essirilate ("very-deep-dwelling-person")
esaχuzte ("very-deep-dwelling-monster")

- Memora (a magical means of capturing memory)

suliχalu ("past-knowledge-container")

- Memoreum (a repository of great knowledge, specifically using Memora)

suliχaluhute ("great-place-containing-past-knowledge")

- [the equivalent of the universe's greatest nightmare, primordial terror, or great threat]

kraʗtete ("Biggest Bad")

And because I've just realized we don't yet have a Lizard Man word for these critters:

- Deep Slug (assuming this isn't just a new name for "earthclot")

esyik

This is just what I came up with; improvements are always welcome.
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #126 on: December 23, 2017, 03:33:21 PM »

factions -- šaha

Also works as a suffix -ha, meaning a group or a member of that group. Idiomatically, to be partial to or a fan of something.

soralaha (thief faction) -- a band or a guild of thieves, a member thereof
sorha (enemy faction) -- an enemy group, a member thereof
zeχaha (food faction) -- a glutton
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #127 on: December 24, 2017, 12:29:18 AM »

factions -- šaha

Also works as a suffix -ha, meaning a group or a member of that group. Idiomatically, to be partial to or a fan of something.

soralaha (thief faction) -- a band or a guild of thieves, a member thereof
sorha (enemy faction) -- an enemy group, a member thereof
zeχaha (food faction) -- a glutton


I like this. It's even conceptually not that far off from my suggestion of hal for the verb "to think" -- a faction is a group of beings who think the same way about something.

FWIW, šaha sounds fine to me as Thepan for "faction."
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #128 on: December 29, 2017, 01:48:09 AM »

Joe, were these useful for you?

If there's anything else we out here can suggest, or if what you really need is different from the notions provided so far, just let us know.
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #129 on: May 02, 2018, 05:55:57 PM »

Thanks again for all the help with this, everyone!

I'd love to hear your suggestions for Lizard Man graffiti, using some of these terms. (Example for length: "All reason departs." or "Abandon all hope.")

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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #130 on: May 03, 2018, 02:28:17 AM »

Some first thoughts....

New words:

LizardmanFormHuman
corraverbgo fast, run
cor'loaverbgo quietly, sneak
kaverbwait
loaadvquiet, silent
selverbkeep, save, own, possess
traadjtoward, in the direction of
χalunounmemory ("past-knowledge")

Phrases:
  • tra tosa preka čuśu ("toward your fate, swim")
  • tra yužalʗ cor ("toward the unknown, go")
  • su śśorru že ka ("in the dark, death waits")
  • tosa epu preka? ("are you feeling lucky?")
  • šali kutosa χalu selit ("we your memory shall keep")
  • su yut hu cor'loa ("in this place go quietly")
  • pica yeśorʗ ("goodbye, friend")
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #131 on: May 06, 2018, 09:11:24 AM »

Woo Hoo ... this lizrd language was a hoot when we "developed" it.  now we can play with it. unfortunately there have been some new words since last I tabulated my list, several hundred words long now, though many are conjugations. and I think we need the preposition 'for', so I made it up. But I'll have at it with what I have:

for   prep    ke  (did we cover this?)

"for a good time go to Scaley"  =    Ke kra rek cor eppa Shelly
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #132 on: May 07, 2018, 03:37:11 PM »

I'm not where I can check my spreadsheet, but I think I was just using "ku" (of, from, possessed-by) as a way to express "for."

When I get some time tonight, I'll see if I can post the full updated list I have. (The last full list was nearly a year and a half ago!)
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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #133 on: May 08, 2018, 12:47:35 AM »

Looks like "for" wasn't defined yet. I've added "ke" to the fan lexicon, and here's part 1 of the latest version of that:

LizardmanFormHumanOriginator
ičutaphrase("[your]-tongue-bite") generalized curseFlatfingers
šažokazonoun("no-tails") general term for all sentient non-Thepan racesFlatfingers
'stop(separator)OtherSide
ceinterj(sound of amusement)Flatfingers
auconjandOtherSide
šaluśʗadvapartFlatfingers
horraverbapply-to, apply-onFlatfingers
yetecnounarmorStarker
urežiteadjarrogant ("scale-so-bright")Flatfingers
seknounarrowFlatfingers
traʗadjaway fromFlatfingers
kraʗadjbadFlatfingers
zaculnounbat (animal)Flatfingers
aχuznounbeast, monsterFlatfingers
trosoadvbecause of, caused byFlatfingers
žitlanounbeggarOtherSide
teadjbig, largeFlatfingers
taverbbiteFlatfingers
sekonounbowklabelkholosh
hetiklonounbrassFlatfingers
ežiadjbrightFlatfingers
ežioconounbrightnessandth
tukverbbuildFlatfingers
hizeži'oconouncandleandth
epriknouncapableFlatfingers
eχuverbcarryFlatfingers
žaploʗnouncave, holeandth
porranounchallengeFlatfingers
tunounchildTrenchKnife
šatunounchildrenTrenchKnife
kužoconounchoiceEngineArtist
kužaverbchooseEngineArtist
ulnounclawFlatfingers
zatpaʗverbcloseFlatfingers
hizežiɾoćnouncolorandth
sulnouncontainerFlatfingers
hetunouncopperFlatfingers
χrešślanouncowardK§H
aroʗadjdangerousFlatfingers
śśorruadjdark, gray, shadow, colorlessandth
ženoundeathStarker
esadjdeepFlatfingers
esyiknoundeep slugFlatfingers
-ikaffixdid (past tense verb suffix after consonant stop)OtherSide
-kaffixdid (past tense verb suffix not after consonant stop)OtherSide
ežiʗadjdim (but not dark)Flatfingers
hoχanoundire bunnyFlatfingers
luśʗteadjdistantFlatfingers
śžuχnoundoorFlatfingers
žosonoundownFlatfingers
žalyaverbdreamFlatfingers
eχuʗverbdropFlatfingers
tuχoco šarilanounDwarves (building-peoples)Flatfingers
zoɾčnounearthclotFlatfingers
soralakutaphraseegg stealerFlatfingers
eppaśśorroconounElvesandth
sornounenemyOtherSide
osslinounenoughOtherSide
zucorverbenter ("through-go")Flatfingers
zucorʗverbexitFlatfingers
šahanounfactionsStarker
žiɾočarilanounfactions (lit. "color-peoples")Flatfingers
luśʗadjfarFlatfingers
raadvfastFlatfingers
prekanounfate, luckFlatfingers
χrešślnounfearK§H
χrešślžuverbfearK§H
χrešślizadjfearfulK§H
χrešśloadvfearfullyK§H
epuverbfeel, senseFlatfingers
uadjfemaleTrenchKnife
tuenounfemale childTrenchKnife
pakukverbfight, attack ("make-wound")Flatfingers
caklanounfighterStarker
cešnounfireFlatfingers
cešlanounfire elemental ("fire-er")Flatfingers
cešaculnounfirebatFlatfingers
kri'yežrinounfishTrenchKnife
zeχanounfoodOtherSide
keprepforTrenchKnife
yeśorʗnounfriendOtherSide
roznoungemFlatfingers
sel'averbgiveOtherSide
corverbgoOtherSide
corraverbgo fast, runFlatfingers
cor'loaverbgo quietly, sneakFlatfingers
žornoungoldFlatfingers
kraadjgoodFlatfingers
picainterjgoodbyeOtherSide
krikverbgrabOtherSide
žoɾeyʗadjgray (only used to describe Thepans)andth
teteadjgreat, enormous, massiveFlatfingers
yeppalatenoungreatly honored visitorFlatfingers
ulkiadjgreedy ("claw-long")Flatfingers
ćošklaχadjgreenandth
picaʗtenoungriefFlatfingers
žesʗverbhateOtherSide
žesʗoconounhateOtherSide
yoppuverbhealFlatfingers
yoppulanounhealerFlatfingers
urežiadjhealthy ("scale-bright")Flatfingers
prukaverbhearFlatfingers
śpaladjheavyFlatfingers
picainterjhelloOtherSide
sstreśverbhelpOtherSide
sstreśoconounhelpOtherSide
loadjhidden, secret (back-formation from Starker's "lokrik")Flatfingers
karilanounhunterStarker
kariocoverbhuntingStarker
corratephraseHurry up! ("go-fast-more")Flatfingers
isilinounI, meOtherSide
uzcondifFlatfingers
suprepin, insideFlatfingers
-yamodindeterminateFlatfingers
točanouninfluence (as in reknown/fame)Flatfingers
-ocoaffix-ingOtherSide
zižnounironFlatfingers
selverbkeep, save, own, possessFlatfingers
yeževerbkillOtherSide
žalunounknowledgeFlatfingers
yužalnounknown ("this-think")Flatfingers
rekteadvlaterFlatfingers
hizežiɾotoloconounlava as magma, hot (light+stone+-oco)andth
hizežiɾotolknounlava as stone, solid (light+stone)andth
kužalanounleaderEngineArtist

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Re: FAN PARTICIPATION: Lizard Man Language
« Reply #134 on: May 08, 2018, 12:48:52 AM »

Here's part 2 (because I hit this forum's 20,000-character limit):

LizardmanFormHumanOriginator
-aaffixless, smaller (diminisher)OtherSide
iriʗtenounlichFlatfingers
irinounlife, breathStarker
hizežiɾanounlightandth
śpalʗadjlight (weight)Flatfingers
žeśverblikeOtherSide
irilanounliving being, person, somebodyStarker
žepanounLizard MenOtherSide
kiadjlongFlatfingers
žeśteverbloveFlatfingers
kri'klanounlurkerOtherSide
kupošlanounmage (possess-magic-person)Flatfingers
aadjmaleTrenchKnife
tuanounmale childTrenchKnife
osiɾikužornounmana/aetherandth
ArošarilahunounMarcaul (safe-settlement)Flatfingers
ssežʗyainterjmaybeFlatfingers
suliχalunounmemora ("past-knowledge-container")Flatfingers
suliχaluhutenounMemoreum ("great-place-containing-past-knowledge")Flatfingers
χalunounmemory ("past-knowledge")Flatfingers
tecnounmetalStarker
ružečanounmind cripplerFlatfingers
ku'isilinounmineOtherSide
žaplonounmoundandth
ša-affixmultiple (plural determiner)OtherSide
luśadjnearFlatfingers
žitverbneedOtherSide
rekyaʗadvneverFlatfingers
ʗnegationno, not, don'tOtherSide
affixnon-, oppositeOtherSide
kuprepof, from, possessed byOtherSide
śpalzoadjold ("heavy-tail")Flatfingers
yeχrešślanounone who fears reasonablyK§H
zatpaverbopenFlatfingers
aconjorFlatfingers
suʗprepout, outsideFlatfingers
picaʗnounpain, sorrowOtherSide
šarilanounpeople (any group of sentient persons)Flatfingers
žušnounpileTrenchKnife
žušocoverbpileTrenchKnife
hunounplaceFlatfingers
ye-affixpolite noun prefixOtherSide
šacukteadjpowerful ("many-teeth")Flatfingers
yosžuverbprovisionFlatfingers
loanounquiet, silentFlatfingers
yotayaadjredandth
uktarverbreleaseFlatfingers
yekužalatenounrevered leaderFlatfingers
koranounripperFlatfingers
ššluknounrotwormTrenchKnife
šaʗuχanounruneandth
ʗuχapaśinounrune spellandth
aroadjsafeFlatfingers
urnounscale (on the body)Flatfingers
loconounsecretFlatfingers
lośžuχnounsecret doorFlatfingers
ćaliverbseeFlatfingers
šarilahunounsettlement (people-place)Flatfingers
aχuśśorrunounshadow beastFlatfingers
-itaffixshall (future tense verb suffix after a consonant stop)OtherSide
-tverbshall (future tense verb suffix not after consonant stop)OtherSide
pužkašalanounShamblersFlatfingers
žokadjshortFlatfingers
urežiʗadjsick ("scale-dim")Flatfingers
hapnounsilverFlatfingers
ʗiriassnounSir CabirusOtherSide
poškutolknounskill shrine (magic-from-stone)Flatfingers
arožalunounskills (lit. "safe-knowledge")Flatfingers
hoynounslingFlatfingers
hoytolknounsling bulletFlatfingers
raʗadvslowFlatfingers
akaadjsmallFlatfingers
iššoverbsmellFlatfingers
rekyaadvsometimeFlatfingers
rek'aadvsoonFlatfingers
kiseknounspear ("long-arrow")Flatfingers
paśioconounspeech, languageOtherSide
zzžuknounspiderFlatfingers
advstart, beginFlatfingers
soraverbstealOtherSide
tolknounstoneFlatfingers
ušʗadvstop, endFlatfingers
sorʗnounstrangerOtherSide
čuśuverbswimFlatfingers
caknounswordStarker
zonountailFlatfingers
yekverbtakeFlatfingers
kraʗtetenounThe Biggest BadFlatfingers
yehapučastunounThe Silver SaplingFlatfingers
yehapučastetenounThe Silver TreeFlatfingers
śśorru žaploʗnounThe Stygian Abyssandth
soraocoverbtheftOtherSide
soralanounthiefOtherSide
žalverbthinkFlatfingers
yutnounthisFlatfingers
ružnounthreadFlatfingers
zuprepthroughFlatfingers
luverbthrowFlatfingers
reknountimeFlatfingers
siverbto beOtherSide
paverbto do, to makeOtherSide
paśiverbto talkOtherSide
šaluśadvtogether ("multiple-things near")Flatfingers
ičužnountongueFlatfingers
cuknountoothFlatfingers
hizežiɾoconountorchandth
traadjtoward, at, in the direction ofFlatfingers
sel'ayekverbtradeFlatfingers
lokriknountrapStarker
okuverbtrustFlatfingers
iriʗnounundeadStarker
yužalʗyanoununknowableFlatfingers
yužalʗnoununknownFlatfingers
arunounupFlatfingers
-laaffixverb suffix equivalent to English "-er"OtherSide
esaχuztenounvery-deep-dwelling-monsterFlatfingers
essirilatenounvery-deep-dwelling-personFlatfingers
eppaverbvisitOtherSide
eppalanounvisitor, wandererOtherSide
kaverbwaitFlatfingers
yeželanounwarriorOtherSide
pliχunounwaterFlatfingers
šalinounwe/usOtherSide
šatateadjwealthy ("many-eggs")Flatfingers
yeśuknounweaponFlatfingers
yoppuʗverbwound, damageFlatfingers
kuknounwound, injuryFlatfingers
ssežinterjyes, thus, that wayOtherSide
tosanounyou (singular)OtherSide
šatosanounyou all (plural)OtherSide
žokzoadjyoung (age) ("short-tail")Flatfingers
kutosanounyoursOtherSide
yiklonounzincFlatfingers
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